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New VIP system for the Nerd 3.1 update
Topic Started: Oct 2 2014, 10:02 AM (577 Views)
Ferby
I'm looking for opinions on what the VIP should be changed to for the Nerd3.1 update as our current system (Members+) just doesn't cut it for me. I do have a few ideas which I'll add to a poll which'll run until I'm ready to release the update.

Option one: Bronze, Silver, Gold and Pink ranks.
VIP will always be determined by both post count and contribution to the forum. Bronze will be the first VIP level reached at a certain post count, then silver and finally gold. The Pink rank will be granted to those who we feel have contributed to the site. Unlike the old Pink Ladies Club, it won't be a rank you lose. Members who we feel have contributed to the site to earn this rank may include: retired staff members, provided support to our members on a regular basis without a position and people who have provided the site with exclusive features such as a new theme or system. Each rank will have its own colour and maybe an icon.

Option two: Elite/Elder ranks.
Elite status will be granted when you have reached a certain post count or have contributed to the site enough. The requirement to earn this rank by post count will be high but the perks will be more beneficial as well than other options. There will be an icon but no colour for these members unless they purchase it for themselves. Or, if you want to have a nicer name for it, we could use elder instead (thank you Torre for the idea).

Option three: Abolish the system for a Parliament.
We can abolish the VIP system and opt into a Parliament. To those who are unsure what this is, it is a group of members who will make decisions on behalf of you. This is more affective on larger boards as there are more members to speak for but also brings benefits as it allows your voice to be heard more as they stand for you. Of course, the Directors team will be permanently in place otherwise it would not be a parliament but this would also change the staff system as it does require an election to be held every three months (minimum staff service) for either a new leader or for the current one to be elected. I understand this is a big change. The reason we cannot have both a VIP and a Parliament system is because of our current community size, it would mean regular members would be lower in numbers than those who have a status. It would be unfair.

If you don't like any of the options then please do suggest something else in a reply and I'll give my opinion on it :)[edit_reason]Adding 'elder'[/edit_reason]
Edited by Ferby, Oct 2 2014, 02:02 PM.
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Would the VIP system conflict with the Parliment system, that such would need to abolished?

The VIP system only rewards members for their activity and contributions, whilst the latter seems like a group of individuals that will make decisions for the board. I don't think they conflict necessarily.

As for my opinion, the 'Elite ranks' or whatever is a good option. It would mean less clutter of colored usernames but above all it would represent "values" to those that rock those ranks; as elders, contributors, loyalist, and good community men/women.
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Oct 2 2014, 10:02 AM
The reason we cannot have both a VIP and a Parliament system is because of our current community size, it would mean regular members would be lower in numbers than those who have a status. It would be unfair.
I think you missed that part :r :P

I like the idea of Elders. That might be a better name than Elite. It's really up to everyone's vote.
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I didn't overlook that, perhaps I misunderstand the concept of both systems. Parliament seems to be a lesser version of what (Directors, staff) are on this board, but they would be ran by the community and like you stated that would avidly depend on a larger one. However, the other two options are just based on how much you've been around; posting, contributing, ect but they don't suggest any 'decision' making abilities, like the Parliament system suggest.

What I'm getting at is that, option 2 doesn't seem to conflict with option 3, since -two- is based on how long you've been around posting and contributing, while option -three- seems to be a 'safe' mechanism to ensure that someone is always trying to keep the board active. Elders are more just the 'old' folk xD

I'm not sure if I got my point across, ignore me if I couldn't express myself well enough.
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What I say is none of them. And all of them. Why take one of the options, when we can rejig it all so that they can all be implemented. I'm thinking no Parliament for board decisions, but having a member run government style game would be interesting...I prefer the Elder name for the VIPs, but like some of the elements from the Gold ranks...

What I propose is a few ranks (similar to Elder, e.g. Benefactor) that denote those that help and deserve the title. I like the idea for he different levels of VIPs, but perhaps having them with different names would be better. If you go with the Elder title, you could have Magistrates for instance.
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Wow the vote seems quite split at the moment.
I voted Bronze, Silver, Gold, Pink because I liked the idea of ranking up. Also, the idea that any type of person (old, new, not-to-many-posts, lots-of-posts etc) can get Pink and have them be able to keep it forever (unless they are severely punished and it is formally removed from their name) is appealing to me because then you wont feel like, "Oh... well I am leaving now and I guess in a year no one will remember me.."
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Parliament; basically a self-sufficient system that allows the board to remain active as long as the community is willing to keep it active. [However] in the scenario that the board becomes inactive or the active community isn't enough to support this system, (Directors, staff) should assume the community government role.

Should members be rewarded for their activity?

Yes! However -how- they should be awarded is where I think it would be better to experiment with other methods.

Maybe have achievements they can unlock as their post count grows.

1) 100 Post: unlock the ability to have a signature.
2) 200 Post: unlock the ability to have a title icon.
3) 500 Post: unlock the ability to run for government.
4) 1000 Post: unlock the ability to have a larger avatar.
5) 3000 Post: unlock the ability to become an Elder.
... ect

Elders, defining the role.

I believe this is similar to that what you guys refer to as the Pink Ladys, or forum Elders. They represent the past, present, and future. They are an indefinite rank.

Requirements: 1 year minimum membership to the Nerd Domain. Unlocked ability #5 as a regular member. Voted by his peers or by staff to the position.
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I do not think option 3 is good for TND because we are not a big community. Anyway, I choose option 1 because I prefer it that way.
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Parliament; basically a self-sufficient system that allows the board to remain active as long as the community is willing to keep it active. [However] in the scenario that the board becomes inactive or the active community isn't enough to support this system, (Directors, staff) should assume the community government role.

Should members be rewarded for their activity?

Yes! However -how- they should be awarded is where I think it would be better to experiment with other methods.

Maybe have achievements they can unlock as their post count grows.

1) 100 Post: unlock the ability to have a signature.
2) 200 Post: unlock the ability to have a title icon.
3) 500 Post: unlock the ability to run for government.
4) 1000 Post: unlock the ability to have a larger avatar.
5) 3000 Post: unlock the ability to become an Elder.
... ect

Elders, defining the role.

I believe this is similar to that what you guys refer to as the Pink Ladys, or forum Elders. They represent the past, present, and future. They are an indefinite rank.

Requirements: 1 year minimum membership to the Nerd Domain. Unlocked ability #5 as a regular member. Voted by his peers or by staff to the position.
Okay, I can see your reason and I agree with it. However, for the sake of the poll, I won't update anything to incorporate with this idea. If the Elite/Elder option comes out on top then I'll consider maybe giving Parliament a trial or maybe leave it up to another vote entirely as I don't know when of yet I'll be stepping back down from Director. Of course, senior staff will be there to make top executive decisions when required but I haven't thought the Parliament system through 100% so we'll see how we make things work. If it does come into play then I'll have a chat with The and Pacho about it before any decision is made.

And to answer your second idea, I strongly disagree. Whilst members of the forum can have their membership summed up with how much they've contributed to the forum, I don't think restricting them of things until they reach a certain post count would benefit any of us. Having freedom & choice (but not too much) is a plus when signing up to a site so restricting them of a signature & such will not benefit any of us. I agree that if you were going to run for Parliament you should meet some requirements but just being a member shouldn't be such a hassle.

As for Elders, that'll be decided when/if they win the poll so I can't comment on that now.
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Fair enough, it was only my input and opinion about it.

Whatever goes, I'm for when all is said and done.
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